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		<title>By: J-man</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>J-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a simular scenario as dave with my ISP/cable service. Out here we have a HUGE direct tv service (almost every home everywhere is plagued with constant dishes lol)... My local broadband company charges an arm and a leg for service but I called their bluff and told them I would switch to Direct and they offered me a year deal. I went from 7 megs per second to 12 (they literally just had to flip a switch) , although my advertized speed is 18 12 is about where it stabilizes, and they threw in a bunch of premium channels at an overall lower price. 

The barter system is still very much alive today, but most people don&#039;t realize it because they are not in the business mindset. The business mindset basically is an awareness that every company out there is only as successful as their sales, and not just the first sale but the prospect of repeat business. Although many of the hard core companies are harder to barter/deal with because they hire and train a staff to deal with you who probably don&#039;t care to help you, you there are many small businesses that will. 

You can&#039;t barter with a tech support rep, unless the company is smart enough to implement a &quot;if they ask we&#039;ll concider it&quot; policy of some sort or a &quot;the customer is always right&quot; policy. I live near a small town called &quot;Sisters&quot; where 98% of the stores are owned and opperated by either the owner or a family member (and many of their non family member clerks are like family and will pass on your message) and they will, IF YOU ASK barter on the price, especially if you say something aloud like I&#039;m going to tell my friends to come in here, you guys are great.

It&#039;s simple economics, most businesses are hurting and need your business. This usually won&#039;t work for online companies that are pretty much keeping their prices at rock bottom to compete- the internet is highly competitive, especially with online services. But it never hurts to ask anyway, if your offer is beneficial to both parties.... well.... 

-J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a simular scenario as dave with my ISP/cable service. Out here we have a HUGE direct tv service (almost every home everywhere is plagued with constant dishes lol)&#8230; My local broadband company charges an arm and a leg for service but I called their bluff and told them I would switch to Direct and they offered me a year deal. I went from 7 megs per second to 12 (they literally just had to flip a switch) , although my advertized speed is 18 12 is about where it stabilizes, and they threw in a bunch of premium channels at an overall lower price. </p>
<p>The barter system is still very much alive today, but most people don&#8217;t realize it because they are not in the business mindset. The business mindset basically is an awareness that every company out there is only as successful as their sales, and not just the first sale but the prospect of repeat business. Although many of the hard core companies are harder to barter/deal with because they hire and train a staff to deal with you who probably don&#8217;t care to help you, you there are many small businesses that will. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t barter with a tech support rep, unless the company is smart enough to implement a &#8220;if they ask we&#8217;ll concider it&#8221; policy of some sort or a &#8220;the customer is always right&#8221; policy. I live near a small town called &#8220;Sisters&#8221; where 98% of the stores are owned and opperated by either the owner or a family member (and many of their non family member clerks are like family and will pass on your message) and they will, IF YOU ASK barter on the price, especially if you say something aloud like I&#8217;m going to tell my friends to come in here, you guys are great.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple economics, most businesses are hurting and need your business. This usually won&#8217;t work for online companies that are pretty much keeping their prices at rock bottom to compete- the internet is highly competitive, especially with online services. But it never hurts to ask anyway, if your offer is beneficial to both parties&#8230;. well&#8230;. </p>
<p>-J</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I do pretty well at speed test, avg about 21 MBPS DL and about 7 MBPS UL,  - Dave -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I do pretty well at speed test, avg about 21 MBPS DL and about 7 MBPS UL,  &#8211; Dave -</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave for  the post.  I was recently on Comcast residential but switched to a business line just last week.  They are laying fiber optic in my area and within a week I should be at 22 MBps download and 6MBps upload on an dedicated ip.  And with that business agreement (and the hefty 6 MBps), I&#039;m able to set up my own web server and lease out each month some status ips from Comcast.  Profit Loophole and Affiliate Armory, here I come!

Go to http://www.speedtest.net/ and check out your own speed tests to see how your download and upload speeds compare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave for  the post.  I was recently on Comcast residential but switched to a business line just last week.  They are laying fiber optic in my area and within a week I should be at 22 MBps download and 6MBps upload on an dedicated ip.  And with that business agreement (and the hefty 6 MBps), I&#8217;m able to set up my own web server and lease out each month some status ips from Comcast.  Profit Loophole and Affiliate Armory, here I come!</p>
<p>Go to <a href="http://www.speedtest.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.speedtest.net/</a> and check out your own speed tests to see how your download and upload speeds compare.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sonia, that email address should come directly to me, but I do not see anything from you.. even in my junk folders..  can you send them again, 

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sonia, that email address should come directly to me, but I do not see anything from you.. even in my junk folders..  can you send them again, </p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave

I submitted some questions through (email address edited) over a week ago like you suggested after the PL Webinar on 9/9.  No reply though.  In fact, I never seem to get a reply whenever I send mail to that address.  Is support even getting my emails?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave</p>
<p>I submitted some questions through (email address edited) over a week ago like you suggested after the PL Webinar on 9/9.  No reply though.  In fact, I never seem to get a reply whenever I send mail to that address.  Is support even getting my emails?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Dave it does vary from market to market.  When I lived in Maryland, Comcast was the best service I could find.  The story is very different in Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Dave it does vary from market to market.  When I lived in Maryland, Comcast was the best service I could find.  The story is very different in Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Denny, Sorry to hear your experience is very different than mine.. I&#039;ve certainly heard all the horror stories about Comcast and virtually every other ISP out there. 

It&#039;s interesting how the service quality can vary from market to market. I would never use Comcast for my TV, really poor quality pic etc.. But I&#039;ve had really trouble free internet service with them for 7 years now.  In the past 20 years they have been my most reliable provider.. even though I would never have predicted that when I started with them

- Dave  -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denny, Sorry to hear your experience is very different than mine.. I&#8217;ve certainly heard all the horror stories about Comcast and virtually every other ISP out there. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how the service quality can vary from market to market. I would never use Comcast for my TV, really poor quality pic etc.. But I&#8217;ve had really trouble free internet service with them for 7 years now.  In the past 20 years they have been my most reliable provider.. even though I would never have predicted that when I started with them</p>
<p>- Dave  -</p>
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		<title>By: Denny &#124; StartupShack.com</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny &#124; StartupShack.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta disagree with you on this one Dave, I just switched to comcast after our permanent relo to Naples and they are almost as bad as Time Warner. I miss my windstream DSL up north. Dynamic IP&#039;s and always fast speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta disagree with you on this one Dave, I just switched to comcast after our permanent relo to Naples and they are almost as bad as Time Warner. I miss my windstream DSL up north. Dynamic IP&#8217;s and always fast speed.</p>
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		<title>By: PL Plugin</title>
		<link>http://www.profitocracy.com/2009/09/16/are-you-paying-too-much-for-your-internet-service/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>PL Plugin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Dave,

Hehe... you would be surprised to know how different it looks over here in Europe (Germany) :-)

Yes, we have competition here too, but... companies are too rigid to offer individual plans to customers.

You either get the plan everyone else has or you have to switch the company and bother with so many things.

That&#039;s why I try to use American service providers for whatever I can, be it hosting or whatever else...

Works fine for me :-)

Best

Metodi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Dave,</p>
<p>Hehe&#8230; you would be surprised to know how different it looks over here in Europe (Germany) <img src='http://www.profitocracy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, we have competition here too, but&#8230; companies are too rigid to offer individual plans to customers.</p>
<p>You either get the plan everyone else has or you have to switch the company and bother with so many things.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I try to use American service providers for whatever I can, be it hosting or whatever else&#8230;</p>
<p>Works fine for me <img src='http://www.profitocracy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Metodi</p>
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